May 22nd, 2008 by Dr. Shabbir
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Mr. Robert Spencer, Director, JihadWatch.org: It’s unfortunate that there is no negotiating with the Jihadists. There is no striking a deal with them. Islamic law is very clear on that, and here, once again, is an example. We need to take Islam seriously. Islamic law does not allow for treaties. It does not allow for negotiated settlements between Muslim states and non-Muslim states. All it allows for is a temporary period, of up to ten years, of Hudna, or what is commonly translated as ‘truce’, to allow the Islamic forces to gather their strength. Well, that’s not the same as peace as we know it; that’s not the same as the absence of a state of war. That’s only a temporary lull in a war that the Jihadists consider has gone on for fourteen centuries and are willing to fight for fourteen more.
Answer: Dear Sir, should we repeat what we have already discussed? Peace treaties are extensively discussed in the Qur’an. Verse 9:8 has just been presented. Verses 9:1-10 and many others shed more light on the subject. Please show me the conjecture of “Hudna of up to ten years” in the Qur’an or even in Hadith. Muqtada Sadr of Iraq is a criminal, and no authority on Islam. The criminal Jihadists are already weak and on the run. Now they are reduced to secretly bombing fellow Muslims in Muslim countries! If they come out in the open, they will surely be annihilated. Mr. Triskovic rightly said that Terror is not a very big problem.
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The Noble Koran, 47:4:
“So when you meet (in fight, Jihad in Allah’s cause) those who disbelieve, smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)…Thus (you are ordered by Allah to continue in carrying out Jihad against the disbelievers till they embrace Islam [i.e. are saved from the punishment in the Hell-fire] or at least come under your protection), but if it had been Allah’s Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost.”
Answer: All words and lines that I have colored in red above and below, are not there in the original Arabic text; someone’s intellectual dishonesty it is!
>>> Jihad in Allah’s cause) - till when you have killed and wounded many of them, - (you are ordered by Allah to continue in carrying out Jihad against the disbelievers till they embrace Islam [i.e. are saved from the punishment in the Hell-fire] or at least come under your protection), - (without you) - (He lets you fight), <<<
There are more words within brackets than open! Did you notice the venom of interpolation? Here is the correct rendition and explanation:
47:4 If you meet the disbelievers in battle, strike at their command centers, until you have subdued them, then, bind them firmly. And thereafter, there must be an act of kindness or ransom when the battle lays down its weapons. If God willed, He could punish them Himself, but that He may let you be tested by means of one another (as to which people remains vigilant.) As for those who are slain in the way of God, He does not render their actions vain.
[As soon as the war is over, immediately free the captives as an act of kindness or ransom, such as exchange for your men in their captivity. There is no third option. Fadharb ar-riqaab is usually rendered as ‘smite their necks.’ A little contemplation, however, makes it plain that in a battle of swords and arrows no commander would order his soldiers to aim for the necks alone. Therefore, the term has been used idiomatically, indicating knocking out the command centers. It is interesting to note that even in today’s encounters with high technology this principle is given a top priority.]
Mr. Serge Trifkovic, Author, Defeating Jihad: In Islamic thinking, the world is divided into the House of Islam - where Islamic politic has been established, where Allah rules Supreme - and the House of War, which is the rest of the world. This dichotomy is reminiscent of other totalitarian ideologies, and most explicitly, Communism. Both Communism and Islam seek the end of history in this world. The end of history will come when either the whole of our planet becomes dark with Islam or else when the Proletarian revolution brings the avante garde of the working class to power over the world, which will be the end of state, the end of money, and the end of class oppression. In both cases, it is possible to have a period of truce. It is possible to have what we call in modern parlance, peaceful coexistence. But that peaceful coexistence is a tactical ploy and not a permanent solution.
Answer: Sir, there is no real “House of Islam” anywhere in the world today – “where Islamic politic has been established”. So, the “House of War” automatically becomes irrelevant. Communism is already dead and buried. You said, “…when either the whole of our planet becomes dark with Islam …” But if you knew the true picture of Islam, you would say, “enlightened with Islam” like the celebrated Orientalist, scholar, philosopher and historian, Tor Andre did.
Tor Andre - Muhammad, the Man and His Faith: Islam is a forceful spiritual energy. Its true meaning will manifest itself when it will be implemented on large scale.
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Sahih Al-Bhukari
Volume 4, Book 52, Hadith 196:
“Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’”
Answer: This is another repetition. Please see Freedom in the previous Rebuttal – 24. [Verses 2:256, 2:193, 22:39-40] As we have discussed before, any Hadith violating the Qur’an is nothing but plain forgery. Saying it again, the exalted Prophet would have lost all credibility even before his noble companions if he once violated the Revelation unto him. Here is the Ultimate Truth.
3:20 If they argue with you (O Messenger), tell them, “I have submitted to God; I and those who follow me.” Say to the People of the Scripture, and to those who have no Scripture, “Would you submit (to God)?” If they submit, then they have been guided but if they turn away, then your duty is only to convey the message. God is Seer of His servants.
Mr. Robert Spencer, Director, JihadWatch.org: If we consider that if only we changed our policies toward Israel, and only we changed our policies toward Iraq, or changed our policies towards something else, if only we hadn’t taken out the Musaddaq regime in Iran in 1953, and other things people have said to me – these ideas are ridiculous. They’re based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the motives and goals of the Jihadists. This is not a conflict that was created with the creation of the state of Israel or a conflict that was created when American armies went into Iraq. The global Jihad has gone on without interruption, without significant interruption, since the 7th century. And it only declined in force and activity at periods when the Islamic world was too weak to prosecute it.
Answer: Dear Sir, this is another repetition. We have said that when we go into history, there are always two sides to the story. The exalted Prophet Muhammad and his noble companions had created a model State for all humanity to behold. The visitors keenly observed the human equity and equality and respect for all human rights.
In the early Islam, delegates from the two super powers of the time, the Persian and the Roman (& Byzantine) Empires used to regularly visit the Islamic capital Madinah presenting their grievances how their ruling elite persecuted their own subjects. The exalted Prophet, and then his successors wrote to the tyrants that if they did not honor human rights, a popular uprising would take place and their own condition would become dismal like the subjugated masses… The visitors used to embrace Islam for its sheer nobility. (Simon Ockley)
Simon Ockley - History of the Saracen Empire 1823: A rugged, strife-torn and mountaineering people…were suddenly turned into an indomitable Arab force, which achieved a series of splendid victories unparalleled in the history of nations, for in the short space of ninety years that mighty range of Saracenic [Nomad Arabs] conquest embraced a wider extent of territory than Rome had mastered in the course of eight hundred. The greatest success of Mohammad’s life was affected by sheer moral force. It is not the propagation but the permanency of his religion that deserves our wonder, the same pure and perfect impression which he engraved at Mecca and Medina is preserved after the revolutions of twelve centuries by the Indian, the African and the Turkish proselytes of the Koran….
Let us listen to a couple of more top non-Muslim historians.
Giyani Balbir Singh - Navan Hindustan, 1947: Those who believe Islam was spread by force are fools who neither know the ways of Islam nor the ways of the world.
De Lacy O’Leary - Islam at the Crossroads London 1923: History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.
Ms. Bat Ye’or, Author, Eurabie: The Euro-Arab Axis: The question now that we have to ask ourselves is, do we want to preserve our Judeo-Christian values and our own civilization or do we want, do we choose to go towards a dhimmitude, an enlarged dhimmitude, in Europe which will engulf the whole of Europe; may be not America, but America will be isolated because it will have to deal in geopolitic with a Islamized, dhimmi Europe. And these are problems that have to be taken into consideration by Europeans themselves, in choosing their identity and their future – freedom or dhimmitude – and by the Americans also.”
Answer: Dear Madam, we have explained the conjecture of dhimmitude extensively. Could you please name one Muslim country where non-Muslims are living as dhimmies or second class citizens? Please see Rebuttals 21 & 23.
Mr. Serge Trifkovic, Author, Defeating Jihad: In order to defend itself against the onslaught of global Jihad, which is coming in the century ahead, I have no doubt of that, the West would need to redefine itself and to say what exactly is the geographic and cultural space to be defended and in the name of what. Defending it in the name of a tepid, lukewarm ideology of multiculturalism is impossible. Multiculturalism and post-modern liberalism are not worthy dying for. They’re not something that can inspire people to do what their ancestors had done at Poitiers [Battle of Tours in France in 732 - SA] and the walls of Vienna in 1683.
What global Jihad has on its side is simple-minded commitment of millions of people to not only spread the faith but also better themselves at the expense of the infidel, in the first instance through immigration and later on, if necessary, by other means.
Answer: All religions are waiting for a ‘promised one’ to come and raise them to glory while annihilating all others! Dear Sir, if you are a believer in the coming of Messiah, why should you worry at all? And if the global Jihad is coming in the 22nd century, why start crying wolf now and create fear and hatred instead of mutual affection ordained by God? Please recall the Golden Rule.
[The Golden Rule: “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” Mathew 7:12]
And Prophet Muhammad is reported to have said: “None can be a believer unless he likes for the fellow man that which he likes for himself.” [Bukhari, Muslim]
The pristine Islam, and not the barbaric man-made Shari’ah, is coming as a blessing to all humanity.
The central themes of the pristine Islam are service of humanity and benefiting God’s creation. As soon as the dust of myth is wiped off, Islam will once again become the Beacon of Light for all humanity. And surely it will be the front-line force in making this planet a better place to live.
9:32 They seek to extinguish God’s light (the Qur’an) by their utterances. But God will not allow this to pass, for He has willed to spread His light in all its fullness even though the rejecters may detest it.
Rev E. Stephenson - My Reflections: The message of Mohammad, Islam, is nothing but a blessing for mankind—The usher from darkness to light and from Satan to God.
Mr. Walid Shoebat, Former Member PLO Fatah Brigade: What the West needs to understand about Islam is that Islam has the potential of replacing the dangers that we just kind of did away with, Nazism and Communism. Like Nazism and like Communism, Islamism, the end justifies the means. There is no respect for national borders, and the whole ideology is to promote their way of thinking and promote their way of life throughout the entire world. That’s what’s being taught in the Middle East, that’s what is coming out from all the jurisprudence in Al Azhar and Saudi Arabia, and all throughout the Muslim world, is that Islam will conquer and will continue to conquer, until it triumphs - until everybody in the world says, “There’s no God but Allah and Muhammad is His Prophet.”
Answer: Dear Sir, unfortunately with your background, you are still carrying the deep stigmas of some Criminals of Islam and Humanity, and you seem to be completely unaware of the most benevolent True Islam. Do not listen to me. See what the greats have said.
Dr. Mawde Royden - The Problem of Palestine: Mohammad introduced the concept of such Glorious and Omnipotent God in Whose eyes all worldly systems were pieces of straw. Islamic equality of mankind is no fiction as it is in Christianity. No human mind has ever thought of such total freedom as established by Mohammad.
A.S. Tritton - Islam 1951: The picture of the Muslim soldier advancing with a sword in one hand and the Quran in the other is quite false.
Mahatma M.K. Gandhi - Young India, 1924: The more I study, the more I discover that the strength of Islam does not lie in the sword. The more I desired to know the best of the life of one who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind…. I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet, the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. ….
FRIDAY SERMON, ABD AL-QADER AL-KILANI MOSQUE
BAGHDAD, IRAQ, FEBRUARY 14, 2003:
[An elderly, obese and senile Mullah utters nonsense], “I advise you, oh America, Britain, and those whom Allah said about you: Allah’s wrath upon you, the Jews, oh the sons of apes and pigs – there is no strife on the face of the earth that you have not sparked. Whenever they start the fire of strife, Allah extinguished it. May Allah extinguish your light and your fires. But we, we are the men whom Allah has chosen, and wanted, and made us strong, so as to pluck your heads, ripe for the picking, that rose that acted in tyranny and in arrogance. We will be the ones to pluck them, if Allah wills it.
Mr. Serge Trifkovic, Author, Defeating Jihad: The peculiarity of Islam has to be faced, and it has to be faced frankly and openly. Unlike others - and I am again saying this in the full knowledge that it will offend some Western ears - unlike the Hindus, unlike the Confucians, unlike the Animists of sub-Saharan Africa, the Muslims have inherent tendency to expand and to convert the rest of the world not only to their religion but to their outlook and to their legal and moral system. They will not state this openly while they’re in a minority in the countries to which they immigrate, but we have seen this time and over again throughout history. Once they reach the numbers necessary to impose their will, they will do so.
Answer: Dear Sir, you may like to look at “Forcing God’s Hand” (Grace Halsell, 1999) and “The Washington Report on Middle Eastern Affairs” (March 2000).
We are letting go the bloody history of Christian expansion, mutual bloodshed, heretical killings, and persecution of other faiths, forced conversions, Inquisition, and their persecution of Jews who always found a cool shelter under Muslim rule.
Thomas Arnold - The Call to Islam: ” We have never heard about any attempt to compel Non-Muslim parties to adopt Islam or about any organized persecution aiming at exterminating Christianity. If the Caliphs had chosen one of these plans, they would have wiped out Christianity as easily as what happened to Islam during the reign of Ferdinand and Isabella in Spain; by the same method which Louis XIV followed to make Protestantism a creed whose followers were to be sentenced to death; or with the same ease of keeping the Jews away from Britain for a period of three hundred fifty years.”
A quick glance at the above two publications indicates that there is a massive collaboration underway between fundamentalist Jews and Evangelists trying to force an urgent Armageddon. Detailed plans have been made to demolish Haram Ash-Shareef (Masjid Al-Aqsa) and the Dome of the Rock (Qubba-tus-Sakhra) in Jerusalem. Evangelists and Rabbis are preaching that the Messiah will come only when the new and the third Jewish Temple has been built at the site of the Holy Muslim shrine! This Messiah will annihilate all people on earth but Jews and Christians for “they worship a tribal God concerned with only two peoples Jews and Christians”. (Grace Halsell)
The Christian interest, according to the Washington report, rests in providing a landing base to the Messiah at the new Jewish temple after destroying Masjid Al-Aqsa…. Globally, there are more than ten Christian missionaries trying to convert people to Christianity as compared to one Muslim preacher preaching Islam.
I hope, this alleviates your concerns. Now a few excerpts from these two publications:
- USA shows unmatched combination of high levels of education and high levels of religious belief and activity.
- Now is the time for the temple to be rebuilt.
- The Israeli government must end the pagan Islamic occupation.
- Who is the Antichrist? — A personified opponent of Christians —-. He will take over the government of the world.
- Who are Gog and Magog? — Enemies of Israel. Generally taken to mean Russia, China (and of course Muslims).
- The Arab World is an Antichrist World.
- Jews are the earthly elect and Christians are the heavenly elect of God.
It is easy to see that the ‘promised one’ of each nation seems to be bent upon destroying the other peoples. Will mankind make this horrible scenario a self-fulfilling prophecy?
It is my humble conviction in the light of the Qur’an that no ‘promised one’ will ever appear. The last one to come was the exalted Prophet Muhammad and, God willing, mankind will choose the path of love and peace rather than tread the horrible way to a Armageddon or WWIII. Mankind has to, and eventually will, become One Community as ordained in the Last Word of God, Al-Qur’an. Amen!
Continuation of Friday Sermon, Abd Al-Qader Al-Kilani Mosque
Baghdad, Iraq, February 14, 2003
They will know – and I don’t want to mention their names from this pulpit – The Americans and their president and the British, and their allies, and the Zionists, the spoiled offspring of this entity, Allahu Akbar! If Allah permits us, oh Nation of Muhammad, even the stone will say, Oh Muslim, a Jew is hiding behind me, come and cut off his head and we shall cut off his head. By Allah, we shall cut it off! Oh Jews, Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Al-Jihad for the sake of Allah! Al-Jihad for the sake of Allah! Victory to Allah! Allahu Akbar! The believers will triumph! Allahu Akbar!
Allahu Akbar! The believers will triumph!”
Comment: Mullahs like this one are fortunately a rare breed and they are the Criminals of not only Islam but of Humanity. I found his chants a repugnant comedy. All peoples in the world must join hands to neutralize such insane fundamentalists of any religion.
Mr. Serge Trifkovic, Author, Defeating Jihad: Miracles do happen. I do not know if it is another, maybe even deadlier, terrorist attack that will act as a catalyst, or whether it will be a geopolitical confrontation in the Middle East itself, with Israel perhaps, and trust that a jolt will bring back into the minds and hearts of Westerners the awareness of the need to stand up and be counted.
Answer: Dear Sir, let us hope for a beautiful miracle and let all of us, all humans, be counted as peace makers. The Bible calls all of us “Children of God” and the Qur’an names all humanity as “One Single Community”.
Thanks and God bless us all!
With respects and best regards,
A life-long student
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